Comments on: Should Personal Stores be removed?

By: Thirteen

Thirteen — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 15:06:57 +0000

Okay, So lets have the resolution to this..
I have been in contact with my buddy at NCSoft. He has been allowed to inform me, NCSoft is aware of the over population directly related to the Cryengine.dll file crashes, and server queues. NCSoft is working on a fix, which is likely to be put into an upcoming patch soon. (BTW, ignore the statement about the “typo”, it was in a previous conversation.. )
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Hey XXXXXXX, Sorry it’s taken so long to get back to you. Hayden has been rather busy, and he says he’s sorry abou the typo. The development team has recently become aware of the various CryEnginer-related DLL crashes. This means that they’re now working to get this resolved as quickly as they can. The resolution will likely be implemented as an upcoming patch for the game in the near future. Don’t hesitate to to ask or call if you have other questions.

Talk to you later,
XXXXX
NCSoft Technical Support Mgr.-NA Applications
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Obviously, I have marked out both his and my name. None the less, what this means is that..
1. “Server overpopulation”, wasnt the proplem. Several key functions of the game werent operating properly. NCSoft has first, rectified the login queue times, and as a result, has sent all players (5) of an item in game, via the mail. It is the Loken Amulet, grants 1hr of bonus EXP.
2. “CryEngine.dll crashes”, this is directly the root of the system-wide graphic lag, and failures in high populated areas. I spoke to XXXXX on the phone Friday. He indicated to me, this is NOT an easy fix. So to everyone… please be patient.

~13

By: Takameanie

Takameanie — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 12:59:23 +0000

That’s not what ppl are QQing about. They’re QQing because they “think” people using personal stores to go AFK for hours is the reason for 4 hour Queuee times. The real reason is overpopulation by NCsoft.
I was in a fortress raid the other night, and my character could NOT move, my screen was frozen, half my legion d/c’d, about 50 people around me d/c’d…they were just disappearing, dropping like flies if you will. NCSoft’s servers are no where NEAR capable of supporting the size population they let on, let alone their individual “zone servers” or whatever they have each zone run by…fortress raid end game idea needs to be able to support 100% of the max server pop. in whatever space that end game is…if it’s in a 2×2 box…then they need to have that 2×2 box able to support 3,000 players at one single time. This is also what leads to huge queuee times, when they let too many people on a server because they think “well they can’t ALL be on at the same time”

By: Ihrdot

Ihrdot — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 00:03:49 +0000

Okay, simple fix and everyone will be happy. Add an action, /command, to disable personal stores within your game. I /nops and bam, no dialogue floating over the guys on stools, in fact they all become low poly ghosts, visible, but unobtrusive. Now neither side can complain and all is well.

By: Takameanie

Takameanie — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 12:34:07 +0000

“Talking /s and /trade is totally not a valid comparison of store vs. yelling. In one very obvious way, /s is only whoever randomly happen to be standing next to you at the time.”

I think it’s pretty much the same thing…I didn’t mean just type /s one time…type it every 5 min. so that new ppl in the area see it…at the same time though type it in /trade. It’s the same thing only the people that are around you (at any time of the day 24/7 if you will) can see your store, but everyone online (that hasn’t totally isolated themselves to their own little world (who should probably just go buy a single player game, because they just took the “MM” out of “MMORPG” its not very massive or multiplayer anymoar)) can see you post an item in trade channel.

By: Takameanie

Takameanie — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 12:29:19 +0000

I sowwy tat I said I doesn’t want to playz WoW anymoar and I’m happy Aion gave me something to stop praying it Ted.
Any game that comes out is going to have terminology that comes from WoW, because everyone is more than likely coming from WoW, and as much as we all honestly hate WoW…there are certain things you’re just used to saying…like “LFM for looking for more, LFG for looking for group, WTB for want to buy, WTS for want to sell” does this mean we are secretly wishing Aion was just 100% totally like WoW?…NO…it means that is our understood “game” lingo Just because we’re switching to a new game do we have to start using ” WTLTB = would totally love to buy”…the “terminology” is just that…terminology…it has nothing to do with the game…blizzard didn’t “develop” the terms ppl use in the game. Also, I haven’t read a single article saying it should be more like WoW lol…I don’t think ANYONE wants this to be ANYTHING like WoW…(hence the hordes and hordes (sorry for saying hordes!! I know that word only belongs in WoW now even though its a normal word) of people switching over to play Aion because they’re sick of WoW)

PS…..WoW tanks horribly compared to Aion…but that’s just my OPINION…and opinions are like ___holes….everyone’s got one….they dont’ have to be unbiased (the beautiful thing about opinions)

By: Takameanie

Takameanie — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 12:21:12 +0000

/cry

By: Takameanie

Takameanie — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 12:20:38 +0000

“And there is actually nothing wrong w/ browsing 800 store titles, as I had shopped that way for 5 year in another game.”

lol I don’t like it because browsing 800 stores to find one item would take 2 hours…seeing someone post it in trade chat takes 1 second.
Also, trade chat hits every continent out there in Aion, as does LFG. Only channel that is zone specific is general. I know this because when I’m in morheim I see ppl posting that are in Altgard and Ishalgen. For the ppl that block trade…they’d have to block LFG and general also, because the spammers are on every channel. By doing this, they just made Aion a solo only game because they won’t be able to find groups for anything (lots of group quests out there). It’d be a higher probability that someone who doesn’t have trade blocked would see my item and buy it than someone who has trade blocked would happen across my personal store anyway.

Don’t get me wrong, I like the personal stores (as they used to be with unlimited time), because lets face it…you HAVE to AFK with a personal store, I mean, who wants to sit in front of their computer watching their char. just sit there only so they can move the mouse a bit every 30 min. lol. I’m just debunking your bad thoughts on the trade channel. I’ve sold more high cost rare items on trade than on the broker. Common items are fine to put on AH and personal stores, because everyone is looking for them. Rare one of a kind items, however, trade channel is the best way to market.

Also, if there was a “market shopping area”…I would probably never go there. It would be an insane lagfest, and after sifting through 799 personal stores of garbage I would probably leave and miss the 800th that had a superfantasticzomgholycow item in it.

By: Yukie

Yukie — Wed, 07 Oct 2009 20:24:48 +0000

I just don’t think we are on the same page. Talking /s and /trade is totally not a valid comparison of store vs. yelling. In one very obvious way, /s is only whoever randomly happen to be standing next to you at the time. A store at a specific location, give something like a shopping district that I mentioned from the other game, people know to go there and they go there specifically to shop. Yes I would think that if you set up a store in the middle of nowhere, you wouldn’t get any business compared to Trade.

I do notice the trade chat links too… while I am there, the main issue is that you are not always in game and on that map. So for you to find the right seller or that right seller finding you is completely up to chance. And more people block trade than you think too, particularly in Aion with gold spamming not under any control.
Also people’s attention span for sitting in front of a comp just to yell is clearly much shorter than if they can set up a store and AFK, so compare someone who tries to yell for 30 minutes vs. a shop set up overnight. It makes the merchandizes much more available.
And there is actually nothing wrong w/ browsing 800 store titles, as I had shopped that way for 5 year in another game. You only don’t like it because you are not used to it, and the system in Aion hasn’t developed a mature market yet. It really doesn’t take long to just mouse over a bunch of store name or glance through a screen full of store names. Meanwhile, if you really don’t want to spend that time, go ahead and use the broker. Both for a buyer and a seller, having to continuously spam your msg is not a great way to spend your active game time.

Now I do not plan to make further arguments on behalf of the shops, clearly you just don’t like them. But I have played with both systems extensively and in a mature environment, and I have seen the advantages and disadvantages of both at their fullest. There are things that I do not like about shops, such as your computer has to be turned on *obviously* and wasting energy overnight, and the server inevitably lags around the market area, but none of which you say are among them.

By: Ted

Ted — Wed, 07 Oct 2009 20:08:41 +0000

its not just you, but i see a bunch of people ingame as well as out of game who use terminology that should probably stay exlusive to Wow.

it gets annoying cause its really not the same thing.

i have read articles about the game critiquing it saying that it should be more like WoW which i dont agree with. and this is one of those

people keep using the que problem till this day even when its not really a problem anymore

By: Ted

Ted — Wed, 07 Oct 2009 20:04:03 +0000

pity